Reuben5 Orner (Joseph4, Georg3, probably Ulrich2, Ulrich1), born about 1831 in Ohio;  died 18 November 1879(14) in Allen, Darke, Ohio;  married first 02 June 1853 in Pickaway County, Ohio (FHL film #0288394) to Catharine Pontious who possibly died 1850s in Indiana;  married second by 1860 to Elvira Jane Bockoven (daughter of Peter and Chloe Bockoven) who was born about 1834 in Ohio and died 09 August 1896 at Portland, Jay, Indiana (Book H-3, page 010).

He was a farmer. Civil War service: Company C, 39th Indiana Infantry Regiment and Company C, 8th Indiana Cavalry Regiment [NOTE: there was also a J. L. Bockoven in Company C, 39th Indiana Infantry Regiment with him]. Reuben received an invalid pension. Elvira J. received a widow's pension.

1850 Census: Ruben Orner (with brother Jacob Orner), page 114, visit 892/919, Adams, Seneca, Ohio.

1860 Census: Reuben Orner, page 205, visit 1443/1422, Hartford, Adams, Indiana.

1870 Census: Reuben Ornar, page 552, visit 050/049, Washington, Paulding, Ohio.

1880 Mortality Schedules: Ruben Orner, page [001], visit 020, Allen, Darke, Ohio.

1880 Census: Lovina J. Orner (widow), page 031, visit 019/020, Allen, Darke, Ohio.

He is buried at Village Cemetery at Skeels Crossroads, Mercer, Ohio. Elvira is buried at Liber Cemetery in Wayne, Jay, Indiana.

His known children, first three born in Indiana, the rest born in Ohio:

Andrew J.6 Orner, born about April 1855;  died 1936;  married first 1876-77 to Laura E. Kinch (daughter of Joseph K. and Frances Kinch) who was born about January 1858 in Benton County, Indiana and died 1903;  married second after the 1910 census to Mary M. ______ who died July 1916 in Fergus County, Montana;  married third by 1920 to Laura ______ who was born about 1879 in Missouri;  apparently married fourth by 1930 to Nellie F. ______ (her second or later marriage) who was born about 1892 in Arkansas. He was a farmer. He homesteaded government land in Fergus County, Montana and received a patent on 11 November 1914 (reference). 1880 Census: And. J. Honer, page 163, visit 001/002, Centerville, Neosho, Kansas. 1900 Census: Andrew J. Orner, page 027, visit 092/093, Centerville, Neosho, Kansas. 1910 Census: Andrew J. Orner (widower), page 039, visit 085/085, Lewistown (2nd Ward), Fergus, Montana. 1920 Census: Andrew J. Orner, page 236, visit 092/092, School District 74, Fergus, Montana. Probably 1930 Census: Andrew J. Orner, page 128, visit 061/061, Alabam, Madison, Arkansas. Mary is buried at Roy Cemetery near Roy, Fergus, Montana. Known children with first wife, born in Kansas:

Leon Leroy7 Orner, born 11 September 1877(36)(40);  died 24 December 1951 in Los Angeles County, California(36);  married 12 August 1900 in Neosho County, Kansas (FHL film #1404958) to Nellie Myrtle Short (daughter of ______ Short and ______ Smith(36)) who was born 11 July 1881 in Illinois(36) and died 06 July 1949 in Los Angeles County, California(36). He was a railroad brakeman; later a conductor for the Santa Fe Railroad. He registered for the WWI Draft in San Bernardino County, California. 1905 Kansas State Census: Len Orner, page 037, visit 007/007, Erie, Neosho, Kansas. 1910 Census: Leon L. Orner, page 111, visit 078/091, Bakersfield (5th Precinct), Kern, California. 1920 Census: Leon Orner, page 037, visit 205/238, Los Angeles (E.D. 248), Los Angeles, California. 1930 Census: Leon Orner, page 193, visit 243/254, Los Angeles (E.D. 139), Los Angeles, California. Known children:  Hila Agnes Orner, born 15 June 1901 in Kansas(36), died 30 August 1957 in San Diego County, California(36), married to Reece Merrick Dillingham who was born 18 September 1897 in California(36) and died 18 December 1966 in San Bernardino County, California(36);  Harold S. Orner, born 06 January 1906 in Kansas(36), died 11 November 1986 in Riverside County, California(36), married about 1930 to Mary F. ______ who was born 11 February 1911 in Iowa(36) and died 28 March 1966 in San Mateo County, California(36), 1930 Census: Harold S. Orner, page 019, visit 496/368, Long Beach city, Los Angeles, California;  Leona O. Orner, born 18 August 1911 in California(36), died 12 May 1986 in Riverside County, California(36), married about 1929 to Fred William Bateman who was born 17 October 1909 in California(36) and died 08 November 1993 in Los Angeles County(36).

Loyal Loyd7 Orner, born 04 December 1879(36)(40);  died 20 June 1962 in Los Angeles County, California(36)(obituary in Blackwell Journal-Tribune, issue of 21 January 1962);  married 1909-10 to Jessie Estelle ______ who was born 02 January 1884(17) in Nebraska and died 06 January 1979 at Braman, Kay, Oklahoma(17)(obituary in Blackwell Journal-Tribune, issue of 07 January 1979). He was an oil well drilling contractor. He registered for the WWI Draft at Winfield, Cowley, Kansas. 1900 Census: (single, with parents); and Loyd L. Orner (single, with uncle Willis B. Orner [below] ), page 007, visit 010/010, Hugoton city, Stevens, Kansas. 1920 Census: Loyd L. Orner, page 188, visit 293/305, Winfield (1st Ward), Cowley, Kansas. 1930 Census: Loyd L. Orner, page 097, visit 171/178, Blackwell (4th Ward), Kay, Oklahoma. Known children:  Mildred Orner, born about 1911;  Thelma L. Orner, born about 1916.

Oliver Owen7 Orner, born 12 March 1882(36)(40)(49);  died 24 August 1953 in San Joaquin County, California(36);  married about 1926 to Jessie Lanetta (Ruby) Delmege (daughter of Jeremiah Vardaham Ruby and Hannah Elizabeth Farmer, and widow of Louis L. Delmege) who was born 10 May 1890(17)(36) in Jackson, Keokuck, Iowa and died 28 August 1978 at Stockton, San Joaquin, California(17)(36). He was an electrician for a shipbuilding company(40), later he was an electrician for the Central California Traction Company(49). He registered for the WWI draft at Hoquiam, Grays Harbor, Washington. 1930 Census: Oliver O. Orner, page 162, visit 142/182, Stockton city, San Joaquin, California

Joseph R.7 Orner, born 14 November 1884(40);  married after the 1910 census to Alta M. ______(40), divorced by 1930. He was a farmer. He homesteaded government land in Fergus County, Montana and received a patent on 23 November 1916 (reference). He registered for the WWI draft in Fergus County. 1930 Census: Joe R. Orner (divorced, with sister Ruth V. Cook, below), page 184, visit 326/376, San Antonio (E.D. 144), Bexar, Texas.

Frances C.7 Orner, born about April 1890;  married about 1912 to Charles Knox Monell (son of George Robert Monell and Mary Knox) who was born 03 December 1886(40)[although California State Death Index says 1891(36)] in Little Rock, Iowa(40) and died 18 December 1954 in San Francisco County, California(36). He worked for a railroad. 1920 Census: C. K. Monell, page 209, visit 336/353, Parsons (3rd Ward), Labette, Kansas. [He was remarried and living in California by 1930.] Known children:  Olive Monell, born about 1913 in Missouri;  Robert Monell, born about 1915 in Kansas;  Ruth A. Monell, born about November 1917 in Kansas, 1930 Census: Ruth A. Monell (with aunt Ruth V. Cook, below).

William Roy7 Orner, born 07 April 1892(40);  died 24 March 1951 in Gallatin County, Montana;  married about 1926 to Caroline ______ who was born about 1908 in Montana. He was a farmer. He registered for the WWI draft in Fergus County. 1930 Census: William R. Orner, page 060, visit 052/080, Lewistown (3rd Ward), Fergus, Montana. Known child:  Ruth C. Orner, born about January 1928.

Ruth V.7 Orner, born about March 1895;  married about 1912 to ______ Cook, divorced by 1930. She was a secretary. 1930 Census: Ruth V. Cook (divorced), page 184, visit 326/376, San Antonio (E.D. 144), Bexar, Texas.

Albert J.6 Orner, born about December 1859 in Adams County, Indiana;  died October 1940 (obituary in Plainfield [Indiana] Messenger, issue of 31 October 1940);  married 31 December 1887 in Paulding County, Ohio to Eliza Amanda Plumb (daughter of Henry and Sarah Ann Plumb) who was born about March 1866 in Ohio and died March 1946 at Indianapolis, Marion, Indiana. He was a machinist in an automobile factory. 1900 Census: Albert J. Orner, page 229, visit 242/243, Wayne, Jay, Indiana. 1910 Census: Albert J. Orner, page 134, visit 286/352, New Castle (7th Ward), Henry, Indiana. 1920 Census: Albert J. Orner (with brother Perry, below), page 071, visit 160/181, Flint (6th Ward), Genesee, Michigan. 1930 Census: Albert J. Orner, page 075, visit 154/193, Indianapolis (E.D. 013), Marion, Indiana. They had thirteen children, three of whom died before the 1900 census, and two more of whom died before the 1910 census. Known children, born in Jay County, Indiana:

Mabel Lenora7 Orner, born 15 February 1888 (Book H-3, page 018);  died 02 July 1957;  married 29 May 1920 in Marion County, Indiana (Book 110, page 282) to Ernest Huey Kitch (son of Hiram Axtel Kitch and Laura Alice Stark) who was born 04 February 1890(17) in Macon, Illinois(40)(49) and died September 1975 at Indianapolis, Marion, Indiana(17). [Kitch genealogy is on Jerry Garrison’s website.] He was a WWI veteran. 1920 Census: Mabel Orner (single, with brother-in-law Ernest Ginn, below), page 135, visit 297/298, Indianapolis (E.D. 36), Marion, Indiana. 1930 Census: Ernest H. Kitch, page 077, visit 015/015, Indianapolis (E.D. 307), Marion, Indiana. Known child:  William H. Kitch, born 03 May 1924(17), died 06 May 1999 at Grundy Center, Grundy, Iowa(17).

Andrew Jay7 Orner, born 04 December 1889(40);  married 16 June 1916 in Henry County, Indiana (Book CC-16, page 523) to Naomi R. Sharp who was born 20 October 1898. He registered for the WWI draft at Indianapolis, Indiana. Known child:  (Child), born by June 1917 (from draft registration).

(Daughter), born 23 April 1892 (Book H-5, page 066);  died young.

Esta Mae7 Orner, born 11 September 1893(17);  died May 1973 at Indianapolis(17);  married 11 February 1911 in Henry County, Indiana (Book CC-14, page 448) to Ernest Eugene Ginn (son of Charles Clinton Ginn and Amanda Jane Williams) who was born 19 September 1883(40)(40) in Henry County. He was a machinist at Premier Motor Car Company(40). 1920 Census: Ernest Ginn, page 135, visit 297/298, Indianapolis (E.D. 36), Marion, Indiana. 1930 Census: Erenest Ginn, page 075, visit 154/192, Indianapolis (E.D. 013), Marion, Indiana. Known children, born in Indiana:  John Ginn, born 30 December 1911 in Henry County (Book CSS-15, page 065);  Clarence E. Ginn, born 14 August 1914 in Henry County (Book CSS-15, page 109);  Clinton A. Ginn, born 10 August 1917(17), died 19 January 1997 at Indianapolis(17);  Eleanor Ginn, born about 1919;  Lila Jean Ginn, born about 1926.

(Reverend) Clarence Wilbur7 Orner, born 25 December 1896(17)(40)(also Book H-7, page 022);  died January 1977 at Miami, Ottawa, Oklahoma(17);  married about 1922 to Myrtle J. _____ who was born 25 July 1893(17) in Minnesota and died 13 May 1977 at Tulsa, Tulsa, Oklahoma(17). He was a WWI veteran; he registered for the draft at New Castle, Henry, Indiana. He graduated from Hanover College at Hanover, Jefferson, Indiana. He was a Presbyterian minister. 1930 Census: Clarence W. Orner, page 170, visit 199/208, Poplar (2nd Ward), Roosevelt, Montana [NOTE: he was the census enumerator]. Known child:  Marjorie E. Orner, born about April 1925.

John H.7 Orner, born 25 April 1898 (Book H-8, page 011);  died 1898 aged 04 months(14);  buried at Liber Cemetery in Wayne, Jay, Indiana.

Reuben Henry7 Orner, born 02 June 1899(14)(17)(also Book H-8, page 030);  died 15 February 1969(14) at Miami, Dade, Florida(17)(45);  married 1924-25 to Ida Virginia Dales who was born 26 June 1902(14)(17) in Indiana and died 11 December 1978(14) at Indianapolis(17). He was a schoolteacher. He was a WWI veteran. 1930 Census: Henry R. Orner, page 178, visit 093/094A, Alexandria (2nd Ward), Madison, Indiana. They later moved to Plainfield, Hendricks, Indiana. Later he was a teacher at Robert E. Lee High School at Jacksonville, Florida. They are buried at Maple Hill Cemetery at Plainfield. Children, born in Indiana:  Jeanne Orner, born 07 September 1925(17), died 06 July 2003 at West Palm Beach, Palm Beach, Florida(17), married to Ernest Bradley Rushing (son of Ernest Bradley Rushing and Anita Belle Parish) who was born 26 June 1922(17) in Bulloch County, Georgia and 14 December 2005 at Winter Park, Orange, Florida(17), they had two children;  Margaret Louise Orner, born about 1930-31, married Earl Milhon;  Conradine Ellen Orner, born 19 May 1935, married 1950s to Richard Rodriguez, later divorced, she later moved to West Palm Beach, Palm Beach, Florida, she had three children, [descendant Michael Scott Orner (aka Michael McGurn)].

(Daughter)7, born 21 March 1901 (Book H-8, page 061);  died young.

Osta Hugh7 Orner, born 04 May 1904(17)(also Book H-11, page 016);  died 16 September 1974 at Port Orange, Volusia, Florida(17)(45);  married about 1926 to Olga ______ who was born about 1898 in Indiana. He was a millwright at an automobile factory. 1920 Census: Osta Orner (single, with brother-in-law Ernest Ginn, above). 1930 Census: Oston Orner, page 114, visit 149/149, Wayne Township (E.D. 284), Marion, Indiana. Known children, born in Indiana:  David H. Orner, born 22 April 1928, married to Lorna D. ______ who was born about 1935;  Robert Orner, born about May 1929.

Hettie R.7 Orner, born 09 May 1905 (Book H-12, page 001);  died 01 October 1905 aged “05 months” in Jay County (Book H-5, page 041).

Mary Alice Blanche7 Orner, born 15 September 1906;  married about 1925 to Marlin Abel Boss who was born about 1903 in Michigan. He was a machinist. 1920 Census: Mary Orner (with brother-in-law Ernest Ginn), page 135, visit 297/298, Indianapolis (E.D. 36), Marion, Indiana. 1930 Census: Marlin A. Boss, page 019, visit 455/486, Holland (1st Ward), Ottawa, Michigan. Known children, born in Indiana:  Marlin A. Boss, born 17 September 1927(17), died 02 January 1993 at West Lafayette, Tippecanoe, Indiana(17);  Paul J. Boss, born 25 March 1929(17), died June 1975(17).

Kenneth Harold7 Orner, born 04 February 1908 (Book CH-2, page 004);  died 03 October 1983 at Glendale, Los Angeles, California(17)(36). 1920 Census: Harold Orner (with brother-in-law Ernest Ginn, above). 1930 Census: (single, with parents).

Willis B.6 Orner, born about April 1861;  apparently died before the 1930 census;  married 1892-93 to Lillian [?Hutchison] who was born about May 1877 in Indiana. He was a mail carrier; later he was a veterinarian. 1900 Census: Willis B. Orner, page 007, visit 010/010, Hugoton city, Stevens, Kansas. 1910 Census: Willis B. Orner, page 216, visit 034/035, West Plains city, Meade, Kansas. 1920 Census: Lillian Orner (married but alone, and children), page 033, visit 191/195, Garden City (3rd Ward), Finney, Kansas. 1930 Census: Lillian Orner (widow, with Alice MacBeth), page 051, visit 195/280, Garden City (3rd Ward), Finney, Kansas. Known children, most born in Kansas:

Elvira E.7 Orner, born about October 1893 in Indiana.

Madaline G.7 Orner, born about November 1895.

Monta C.7 Orner, born 18 September 1897(14)(17);  died 06 August 1984(14) at Longmont, Boulder, Colorado(17);  married 1923-24 to William Jennings Raymo who was born 04 June 1897(14)(17) in Missouri and died 12 May 1969(14) at Lamar, Johnson, Arkansas(17). He worked for the U.S. Post Office. He was a WWI veteran (U.S. Navy). 1930 Census: William Raymo, page 108, visit 179/186, Denver (E.D. 68), Denver, Colorado. They are buried at Little Rock National Cemetery (Section 14, site 166) at Little Rock, Pulaski, Arkansas. Known children, born in Colorado:  Mary Kathlene Raymo, born about July 1924, married George B. Gaines;  Norma E. Raymo, born about December 1925;  William J. Raymo, born about May 1927, he was a WWII veteran (U.S. Army Air Corps).

Faustina E.7 Orner, born 21 November 1899(17);  died 28 May 1988 aged 88 years at Marietta, Cobb, Georgia(17)(also Death Certificate #018491);  unmarried. She lived in New York.

Frances M.7 Orner, born about 1902 in Oklahoma. She may be the Mary Frances Orner who was a student at Colorado State Teachers College (now University of Northern Colorado) at Greeley, Colorado circa 1927-28 (1928 Greeley City Directory).

Irene F.7 Orner, born about 1905.

Thelma W.7 Orner, born about 1908.

Gwendolyn7 Orner, born about 1914. 1930 Census: Gwendolyn Orner (with Hubert Unscott, music teacher), page 136, line 91, Manhattan (E.D. 395), New York, New York.

Perry M.6 Orner, born about November 1863;  died 30 December 1944 at Flint, Genesee, Michigan (Book D47, page 383);  married 07 July 1889 in Jay County, Indiana (Book C-F, page 475) to Viola Elnora Logan (daughter of James W. and francenia Logan) who was born about February 1870 in Indiana and died 29 July 1934 at Flint (Book D12, page 440). He was a dairyman; later he worked at an automobile factory. In 1897, they were living at Portland, Jay, Indiana (from City Directory). 1900 Census: Perry M. Orner, page 135, visit 204/211, Center, Delaware, Indiana. 1920 Census: Perry M. Orner, page 071, visit 160/181, Flint (6th Ward), Genesee, Michigan. 1930 Census: Harry M. Orner, page 117, visit 060/069, Flint (2nd Ward), Genesee, Michigan. Known children, born in Jay County:

Delma7 Orner, born 12 April 1890 (Book H-4, page 030);  married 09 September 1905 in Jay County, Indiana (Book C-J, page 214) to Charles Webster Auker (son of George W. Auker and Sarah Downing) who was born 22 August 1885(40) in Jay County (Book H-1, page 138) and died 21 October 1941 at Flint, Genesee, Michigan (Book D36, page 334). He was a farmer. 1920 Census: Charles W. Auker, page 083, visit 170/191, Montrose, Genesee, Michigan. 1930 Census: Charles W. Auker, page 013, visit 221/224, Gaines, Genesee, Michigan. Known children, all but the first three born in Michigan:  Ermel Auker, born 27 May 1906 in Jay County (Book H-12, page ???)[but SSDI says 07 May(17)), died April 1982 at Phoenix, Maricopa, Arizona(17);  Archie D. Auker, born 27 October 1907(17) in Jay County (Book H-14, page 003), died October 1980(17) at Howell, Livingston, Michigan;  Kenneth Roe Auker, born 17 June 1909(17) in Jay County (Book H-14, page 051), died 25 December 1988(17) at Flint;  Grant Auker, born 01 January 1913(17), died 27 November 1997 at Flint(17);  Ruth Auker, born about 1914;  Milo Auker, born 16 May 1917(17), died 25 March 1988(17) at Flint;  Roscoe? Auker, born about October 1919, [not with parents in 1930];  Marian Auker, born about 1923;  Lillian Grace Auker, born 12 July 1925 (from death certificate, but SSDI says 11 July(17)), died 12 November 1976(17) in Dakota County, Minnesota (Death Certificate #1976-027597), married first to Raymond J. Langenfeld (son of Joseph F. Langenfeld and Anna Weiland) who was born 30 July 1922(17) in Minnesota and died 10 May 1972(17) in Rice County, Minnesota (Death Certificate #1972-013057), married second to ______ Johnson, she and Raymond are buried at St. Joseph’s Catholic Cemetery at Miesville, Dakota, Minnesota;  Ivan Auker, born about August 1927;  Betty Auker, born about 1929.

(Daughter)7, born 19 July 1892 (Book H-5, page 090);  apparently died before the 1900 census.

Ada B. Orner, born about 24 May 1894;  died 18 February 1895 aged 08 months, 25 days(14);  buried at Liber Cemetery in Wayne, Jay, Indiana.

Rosele E.6 Orner, born about 1866;  possibly died circa 1889-93;  married 05 February 1884 in Jay County, Indiana (Book C-E, page 480) to George Thomas Caryer (son of George Caryer and Sarah J. Mincer) who was born about January 1861 in [possibly Allen, Darke,] Ohio and died 27 August 1931 at Pekin, Tazewell, Illinois (Death Certificate #2900123). He was a farmer.

[He was married second 1893-94 to Ada Belle Platt (daughter of Abel and Martha J. Platt) who was born about December 1866 in Illinois, and had at least three more children. 1900 Census: George T. Caryer [and second wife], page 042, visit 038/038, Drummer, Ford, Illinois. 1910 Census: George T. Caryer [and second wife], page 009, visit ---/139, Andover, Polk, Minnesota. 1920 Census: George T. Caryer [and second wife], page 045, visit 027/027, Myhre, Beltrami, Minnesota. 1930 Census: Geo T. Caryer [and second wife], page 239, visit 128/136, Pekin (4th Ward), Tazewell, Illinois. Descendant Paul D. Larsisen.]

Known children, born in Jay County:  Cora Caryer, born 11 May 1887 (Book H-3, page 002), [not with father in 1900];  Mervel L. Caryer, born 27 March 1889 (Book H-4, page 007), died 07 March 1917 in Polk County, Minnesota (Death Certificate #1917-010919).

Joseph Newton6 Orner, born about May 1868;  married 1892-93 to Jennie A. Elliot (daughter of John A. and Mary Ann Elliot) who was born about June 1869 in Wyandot County, Ohio;  possibly married second after the 1930 census to Gertrude Rummel (daughter of Frank and Bertha Rummel, and sister of Claudia, just below) who was born about 1877 in Indiana. 1900 Census: Joseph N. Orner, page 230, visit 250/250, Wayne, Jay, Indiana. 1910 Census: Joseph M. Arner, page 122, visit 087/091, Midland (1st Ward), Midland, Michigan. 1920 Census: Joseph N. Orner, page 106, visit 174/215, Bay City (3rd Ward), Bay, Michigan. 1930 Census: Joseph N. Orner, page 034, visit 367/379, Bay City (2nd Ward), Bay, Michigan. Children with first wife, born in Jay County:

(Daughter)7, born 24 March 1894 (Book H-6, page 019);  died 27 March 1894 aged 03 days in Jay County (Book H-2, page 034).

Vernice M.7 Orner, born 26 August 1895 (Book H-6, page 044).

Cholia L.7 Orner, born 05 October 1896 (Book H-7, page 020).

(Son)7, born 28 March 1899 (Book H-8, page 027);  died in infancy.

Donald Emory7 Orner, born 08 March 1901 (Book H-8, page 060);  died 30 January 1932 at Sturgis, St. Joseph, Michigan;  married 01 August 1929 in Elkhart County, Indiana to Victoria Eldridge (daughter of Henry Orland Eldridge and Loretta May Monroe) who was born about 1903 in Indiana. He was an efficiency engineer. 1930 Census: E. Don Orner, page 125, visit 622/640, Sturgis (4th Ward), St. Joseph, Michigan.

Elsie E.7 Orner, born 05 August 1902 (Book H-20, page 026);  died 06 October 1903 aged 01 year in Jay County (Book H-5, page 011).

Charles Wesley6 Orner, born about April 1870;  married first 1897-98 to Lennie M. ______ who was born about May 1879 in Indiana and died after the 1910 census;  married second by 1916 to Claudia (Rummel) Peaslee (her second marriage)(daughter of Frank and Bertha Rummel, and sister of Gertrude, just above) who was born about 1874 in Indiana. [Some info from descendant Kay (Orner) Blagg.] He was a carpenter for a railroad; he also worked as a mail carrier for a while. 1900 Census: Charles W. Orner, page 011, visit 017/017, West Plains, Meade, Kansas. 1905 Kansas State Census: C W Orner, page 002, visit 016/016, West Plains, Meade, Kansas. 1910 Census: C. W. Orner, page 212, visit 081/081, Precinct #7, Chambers, Texas. 1920 Census: C. W. Orner, page 118, visit 472/570, Parsons (1st Ward), Labette, Kansas. He and Lennie had at least three children, all of whom died before the 1910 census. Known child with first wife:

Edith M. Orner, born about November 1899 in Kansas;  [not with parents in 1905].

Known child with second wife:

Harold Norman Orner, born 03 September 1916(14)(17) in Kansas;  died May 1964(14)(17) in Brevard County, Florida(45);  married 29 January 1938 to Vivian Mary Pribble (daughter of Jessie Emmons Pribble and Lola Lucy Nowell) who was born 30 May 1918(14) and died 1967(14). They are buried at Williams Cemetery at Dade City, Pasco, Florida.

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